Hello Sir Roger and thank you for being on the programme.
Thank you for having me.
As a goodwill ambassador for UNICEF you've traveled
around places of poverty I think you once said you deeply regretted
ignoring those places in your acting career is that correct?
Absolutely correct I am filled
with shame when I think of the opportunity I might have had but
when you're on location with a film you are so involved with your
own problems like your diet, where is the thunder box, and basically
all the things necessary to make the film. Is my shirt dry, as
James Bond you mustn't appear to sweat so you must have a dry
shirt I must have had more dry shirts than you had hot meals (much
laughing).
Why did you go into the business of UNICEF ?
I had a dear friend Audrey
Hepburn, I had known her since my early 20s. We became neighbours
in Switzerland, and she phoned me one day and asked me to co-host
in Amsterdam the Danny Kaye International children's awards on
television. I said I would do it, on May the 7th but she said
come a day early, I think May 6th for the press conference. I
said I don't know enough about UNICEF to handle press conference,
and she they will only want to talk about movies. She was right,
they did only want to talk about movies, but she would not help
them, she reverted every question back to children and their problems,
what we should be doing about it, and what we are doing about
it, she would not help them. It was her passion and her extraordinary
eloquence, that made me feel I had to learn more. But I could
only learn from pamphlets and statistics and facts and figures
there were no faces no names . I had to find those faces and names.
The statistics were 40,000 children die every day and no names,
and so I went off to have a look, and once you have looked, you
say this is what I have to do.
And do you feel you can move things personally along
in the organization have you experienced that?
Well you know sometimes when
you finish an appeal, you wonder about the response and you say
somebody must have heard the message and it might have got through,
they may not have been listening, but if you speak loud enough
they listen.
And do you feel that you can use your face, your
name, and career to push things forward?
Without having had some success
as a film and television actor, I would not be known, if I was
going out as Peter Smith of the local bakery, I would not get
any time, you would not have me on this program, there would be
no reason, it is only curiosity a lot of the time, they think
let's see if this actor knows what he's talking about and if he
is sincere. So the curiosity level is very important when you
want to go out and meet politicians, it helps to open doors because
I found they all have wives and children who may have also seen
television programmes. So what you do is sit down and weave your
way through the movie questions, and then get down to the issues
of what you're in the country for.
I know you once said that people only wanted to
talk about the movies when you wanted to promote the cause is
that the case everywhere? And that people keep coming back to
the old clichés ?
No not always after 15 years
people get used to that's what I do I am a UNICEF goodwill ambassador
and are there to raise money and awareness.
What is the worst place, the worst scenario that
you've experienced?
They're so numerous, long
before I became an ambassador for UNICEF I was what they call
a Barker for the variety club of Great Britain, and they raise
money mainly for coaches for handicapped children and one of the
things they asked me to do was go to a burns hospital in East
Grimstead which was started during the Second World War for plastic
surgery. Archibald Macindoe who was the leading plastic surgeon
rebuilding pilots and gunners faces in air wrecks that were burnt
and after the war a lot of children went there. And when I went
there what was one of the first sensations as I got near to the
hospital was this odd smell in the air which I discovered was
the smell of burning flesh. It's like singeing the hair on a piece
of pig skin its an awful clawing smell. Then years and years later
in Salvador we were going to the Children's Hospital and I had
the sensation I knew what I was going to see, the burning. There
were things I did not expect to see, they were expecting a cholera
epidemic and there was a room that was just a giant sluice, there
was a room without beds there were troughs for people just waiting
to be hosed down, and I thought my goodness me. I'm prepared for
anything now, but I wasn't prepared
for the next room there was a child with three limbs missing and
this child was propped on a pillow making a humming sound and
she had lost her limbs in a mine accident her sister had been
killed she had trod on a landmine. The doctor said I don't think
she knows what's happened, she's in a world of her own and when
she comes out of that world God knows what will happen! And then
in the next room there were children that had been burnt either
through men's stupidity, men's greed, the desire to make weapons
of war, or the desire to create landmines, or create landmines
that looked like toys! The children would pick them up and they
would explode, the children would lose their eyesight or lose
their limbs and the parents would sometimes be killed with these
damn things. And then children dying of malnutrition and I mean
this was all in one morning, so that was fairly heavy ! And then
we went to a home which was created and supported by UNICEF, which
was for street children who could come in and get their clothes
washed or they might get a change of clothes and a meal. And also
the opportunity to do some sums and basic arithmetic. But what
they all wanted to do the children was to get a few pieces of
wood together and make a box so they could make a living cleaning
shoes on the street. And so after eating with those children and
being completely humbled by the experience. A wonderful Norwegian
who was a field officer for UNICEF Per Engelbak, translated for
me because it was all in Spanish, and my Spanish is not that good,
he said at one point there were many times when I, found it very
difficult to say what I was being told, he said I thought after
20 years with UNICEF I would be hardheaded. And I said I think
that's the answer Per, that when you become hard headed, you get
out, and I've never met anybody who wanted to get out of UNICEF.
And so what you experienced as James Bond was nothing,
compared to this?
James Bond was a script and
I won all the fights. This is the battle that is very difficult
to win.
Turning a little to your acting career right at
the end, I think what you brought to the role of James Bond I
think everybody agrees was a kind of lightness and humor was that
your intention all the time?
I couldn't believe it was
a real spy, how can you be a real spy and go to any bar in the
world and they say a Martini shaken not stirred ! and hello Mr.
Bond, everybody recognizes you ! That is not a spy, a spy is like
the jackal. In fact the producer of The Day of The Jackal wanted
me to do it. Mr. Wolf, but the director did not. And I met the
director Freddie Zimmerman a couple of years later at a dinner
in Paris and I said I was very upset at the time you wouldn't
have me, and he said there was a very good reason you were too
well known as The Saint, you're too tall, you wouldn't be able
to walk through a crowd unrecognised, and this is what we wanted
for the jackal which is why we got Edward Fox to do it.
I want to show your clip which is 40 years old because
this is not the first interview you've done on Icelandic television.
40 years old! But I'm only
28 says Roger jokingly to much laughter.
The
clip It was taken on the streets of London you can see Piccadilly
in the background with an Icelandic interviewer doing the commentary
introduction
Question on the clip: was how long have you been
playing Simon Templar ?
About five years now I've
done 104 episodes.
Will they be making more?
They may do, at the moment
we're preparing a script to make a film, in September which will
be a saint film for the cinema.
Sir Roger is then asked to finish the interview
by saying this famous line
I'll have a job remembering
it, but I'll try, my name is Bond, James Bond.
Sir Roger Moore it was a pleasure, thank you !
Thank you, and remember the children of UNICEF.
Sir Roger Moore